The Gutsy Podcast | Mindset, Personal Development & Entrepreneurship for Women

587: Undoing Corporate Programing in Your Own Business with Ilene Kastel

LauraAura® | Keynote Speaker, Growth Coach, and Entrepreneur of 18 Years

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Imagine selling a 7-figure company you built from the ground up, without knowing what was next. Could you do it? Could you even let yourself think about it? 

Today's guest, Ilene Kastel, did just that. After 14 years building a mental health counseling practice from nothing, she walked away because, as she puts it, "I just knew what I was doing wasn't it anymore." 

We get into what it actually looks like to leave corporate for reinvention — the self-reliance that replaces hierarchy, the isolation that shows up when collaboration disappears, and the nervous system cues that tell you when you're forcing a decision instead of trusting one. 

I share my own version of this — 20-plus years in branding and marketing, thinking I'd do that until the day I died, and then starting over. Ilene and I both know that feeling of rebuilding competence from scratch, and why doing it inside a community beats doing it alone.

If you're sitting in a corner office wondering if there's something else calling you, by the end of this episode, you'll have real language for what your body's already been telling you.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • Selling a 7-figure business without knowing what's next
  • Golden handcuffs and leaving corporate for reinvention
  • Listening to your nervous system as a business skill
  • Calculated risk vs. burning it all down
  • Undoing corporate habits in business ownership
  • Isolation, community, and finding your people
  • Imposter syndrome and comparison
  • The real-life logistics of a big pivot

Resources from this episode


Mindfully Modern Collective — Ilene's coaching practice, offering one-on-one coaching, breathwork journeys, half-day intensives, and retreats.


Auralign Mastermind — If you're pivoting your business focus, taking your growth to the next level, and ready to build your next chapter your way, Auralign is where you get the support as you make those moves. 


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